Expelled: No Intelligance allowed

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Expelled: No Intelligance allowed

Postby Raptor Llama » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:30 pm

Well, I just saw this movie. And I enjoyed it. Now, since this is a documentary, you can't really spoil documentary.

Well, honestly it's kind of sad. People and losing their jobs for simply mentioning the word intelligent design.

Well, practilly the guy goes around interviewing evalutionist and intelligent design scientist. He finds connections, such as nazis. He finds people who have been expelled for mentioning intelligant design in a few of their slides. And he explains how we are losing freedom of speech. The basis of it was mainly freedom in america. And they have comeidic random clips and such.

And that's sort of it.
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Postby mega raptor » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:19 pm

OK, I wrote a rebuttal to the movie earlier, but the server destroyed it, so I'm just going to say: www.expelledexposed.com does a much better job of shredding every one of the movie's premises far better than I could.
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Postby Raptor Llama » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:51 am

The video on the front page is bull. The definition of intelligent design is correct, but the definition of creationism is applying the bible to evidence and seeing how it applies. Whoever gave those definitions, illigent design scientist or not, is an idiot. Creationism only applies to faith of the hebrew god, intelligent design applies to all things that have an intelligent creator.

The articles on the rest of the site take things too seriously. If they noitce, it was meant to have humor within it. It was more or less a humorous experience. On top of this, I can't even be sure if their telling the truth. Do you think this bull is true? They say they have sources. You can say whatever you want. You can type whatever your heart desires unless it is knowingly lying or attacking someone (which this is, but who really looks at the internet? Plus, the KKK has enough power.)

That's all I have to say right now.
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Postby mega raptor » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:34 am

First of all, let me say I don't want to turn this into a flamewar. But please, allow me that chance to respond.

Now, for starters, the definition of creationism on the movie's front page is about what I've heard. I've never heard it defined as a belief in a literal interpretation of Genesis, but to my understanding the definition has changed many times-perhaps one of us is using the old definition?

Now, it really doesn't matter that the movie occasionally has a light tone-it's spreading lies in a format that legitimizes them, and encourages pseudo-science in schools. That's a problem, and that needs to be combatted.

Now, as for whether or not the website is true, why not try clicking on the cites? Spending two minutes on the site, I see links to Nature, the American Astronomy Association, and the Weekly Standard, respected organizations/publications.

And as for persecution, why not look at this?
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Postby Raptor Llama » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:49 am

mega raptor wrote:encourages pseudo-science in schools. That's a problem, and that needs to be combatted.


what the f*ck? pseudo-science? Hello, there's two sides to the argument. I think evalution is pseudo-science. Science should be using different theories and appling them to the evidence, not just one theory appling to everything. That would work much better.

For the site, you can't expect me to take it seriously with a banner like:
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now, can you? And yes, I will say some "Christians" and such are just complete phyco-paths that accuse people at random. But not all.

Now an old defenition is quite fine, but they shouldn't be making statements until they look at more stuff.

As for the links, their supporting evalution as well, and apparently, they all want evalution to be the only possible theory and reject everything else.
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Postby TyrannoTitan » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:52 am

Even though I have nothing to say about the film in question, I'd like to remind you both that this is NOT a debate on Creationism or anything like it. If you have negative imput about the film, thats fine, but lets try to NOT have this turn into a Creationism VS Evolution debate.

Theres a topic for that in the Off Topic section.
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Postby mega raptor » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:06 am

Please, tell me why you think evolution is pseudo-science. It's supported by evidence, for starters, and is also constantly changing-evolution in its current form has almost nothing in common, mecahnics-wise, with Darwin's original theory. Sorry that I can't find more cites, BTW, but I'm short on time right now.

Now, Intelligent Design, on the other hand, is really more about finding things in nature, whether it's bacterial flagellum or the immune system, promptly proclaiming them designed, and then deciding doing hereafter other than arguing with the real scientists.

Oh, and two sides of science? Well, let's try that with something else-say, gravity. We've got one view, which suggests that as objects gain mass they also gain in gravity and this causes other objects to orbit around them. And then we have another side, which suggests that none of this is true and instead angels push the planets around the sun. Or maybe that's not even true, and instead angels push the sun around the earth. And then just replace 'angel' with 'rotater' and you've got 'intelligent rotation'.

And I admit, the banner is a little bizzare-but again, follow the links please, rather than just dismissing it outright, and you'll find something rather interesting from some respected organizations.
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Postby Raptor Llama » Sun May 04, 2008 5:23 pm

Whether or not the instances of the expelled are correct, freedom of press has been taken away in the science area.

Expelled has been banned from the metropopolis area of new york, due to "contrivertial ideas." Well guess what, that violates the first Amendment. That is unconstitutional. But there's no responce of cource.

They let PORN movies be shown at theaters, yet there is a ban on anything that dares go against the mighty evolution empire? What's going on?

And on top of that, an elderly man was arrested for wareing a shirt in a mall that said how many troops died in Iraq and the word enough. This has nothing to do with science, but it's yet another instance of violation of freedom of speech. America, is now losing the very thing it was based upon: freedom. And whether it's science or no science, freedom is dwindlwing away.
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