Tyrannosaurus Titanus wrote:Creationists respond to everything they don't understand as "the creator did it".
Why can't god create planets? You say because he's god? WONDERFUL answer! WAIT! Theres something missing...something called FACTS and his friend LOGIC.
Plants and Animals didn't decend from eachother, they are two VERY DIFFERENT living things that came from cells. Bacteria was the first things to exist on this earth, and from it cells mutated and adapted, and eventually formed into simple creatures. Bacteria and the like did come from the mixture of chemicals on a molecular level. See? I have FACTS we actually KNOW HAPPENED. Not some bullsh*t you blame on some creator we will never in our lives know even existed (In our LIVES, doesn't include death).
The earth wasn't formed in seven days. Astronimers see the process of planets forming every damned day. It takes alot more then 7 days, and there is no giant human standing beside it making it, so there goes your theory. And dude, we aren't the only intelligent things out there. There are BILLIONS OF PLANETS; if you think there aren't other beings as intelligent as us, you are a very shallow person.
Adam and Eve? Does the f*cking phrase "inbreeding" mean anything to Creationists?! I don't even need to explain.
The ark. WE DISCOVER SPECIES EVERY YEAR, there is NO WAY some random old dude collected EVERY species in the world before some magical flood that happened for no damn reason.
The bible is stories meant to teach morals, not to be taken as truth. I, too, believe in god, but I believe he created the template to the universe and let life find a way. He had nothing to do with our creation or the creation of earth, in my theory.
F*cking hate Creationists...Sorry RL, but these two (Mentioned earlier in the topic) friends at school used to torment me about not believing in this unexplained bullsh*t, and I get pissed easily now. No offense meant.
This all really bothers me. I know and repsect you have your own opinion, but I think you're being a little...well...ignorant. For example, if God is real and all the things in the Bible happened(which I believe), they're taken too literally. Adam and Eve were the
FIRST people God created. Never said they were the ONLY ones. And the 7 days thing? Could've also been an exaggeration. Another point? God is NEVER described as a "giant human" who stands next to the Earth. EVER.
Next, I go to Noah and the Flood. While this story sounds ridiculous, it's not complete bullcrap. SCIENCE can prove that the Earth, a LONG time ago, had a layer of superdense water vapor surrounding it. Enough water vapor, that, if it condensed and precipitated, could flood the entire planet. The Ark? Also sounds ridiculous, but still. It's my personal belief that Pangaea ceased to exist after the Flood. So, before the Flood when there still WAS one supercontinent, the animals could've made it to one place. Unlikely, but it could happen. Noah? I personally don't think him, alog with other figures in the Old Testament of the Bible, were really people. I think they are figures that represent groups of people, or commoin beliefs. The ACTUAL reason many Creationists/people who believe in a god, is backed up by SCIENCE. The Earth, before a certain point, had a heck of a lot more nitrogen in the atmosphere(before the flood). The dinosaurs had EVOLVED(yes I do believe in evolution, just after Creation like KP.) to have nasal passages that needed nitrogen rich air. When they ran out of nitrogen, they couldn't breathe.
Once again, I will use SCIENCE to back my belief. In the Bible, God stops the Earth to help the Israelites win a battle. This group of scientists developed a device that could basically go back in time and see what happened with the planets and alingment...things like that. When they punched in some numbers, there was a hole. Nothing. So, the Christian scientist of the bunch told them about that battle and when they made the adjustments, it worked. Call in random probability or divine intervention , I really don't care.
I've got only a couple more things to say, so here goes.
I commonly have debates with my atheist friends. They're friendly for the most part, and are sometimes almost fun. But, I've basically only got one more argument that they'll actually listen to. Bear in mind, I'm pretty sure it only relates to Chrisitanity, so no offense to anyone.
If you're right, there is no God, and when we die, we die...I'M still ok. Whatever. Even though I was wrong, therell be no paradise, I still was a good person. No real loss for me.
What if I'm right?
Next: Evolution. Sure, it's been "proved" but it has a TON of holes to call it the base for everything. Things won't evolve what they don't need, right? Well, there was a study done on cells. If they evolve their flagellae, well...they can't. They would have to evolve it in pieces...pieces that have no purpose unless one thing. So, there's just NO WAY evolution could've started everything. There had to be something else. No way that when everything goes from order to chaos that evolution can go from complete chaos to order. I want to make it a point that I DO believe in evolution, but not as the basis for life.
In the words of a simple man, "That's all I have to say about that."
The three will spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful striking hammer of God.