Doc 42 wrote:Open to debate.
It all depends on how important animals are to someone. Personally, I think it's a bit hypocritical to eat an animal but then tell someone else that it's wrong to kill said animal. You could argue that food is a need, unlike entertainment, but can you honestly tell me one needs bacon to live? That without hamburgers you'd die? Some meat is simple food, a good dinner, a need, however, many meat products are luxaries as entertainment are. One fullfills someone's greed, the other fullfills someone's blood lust.
In this modern day and age, nobody NEEDS to eat luxary meats, the same way we do not need murder and killing for entertainment.
PeacefulChaos wrote:There's a difference in killing animals for tradition and for food and products. You'd be surprised as to how many parts of an animal are used; everything is used. Everything. I'm not going into detail (yeah, it goes that far, seriously), but, every part.
When they're throwing parts of the cows' hooves into the burger mix, I'm not so sure that's a good thing. I'm assuming you're talking about the more eastern parts of the world though, where what they eat would be considered... "exotic".
Now, the same argument can be made about "needing" meat. If we didn't "need" meat, it wouldn't be something to occur naturally in nature. I've heard the saying "Everything in moderation". In other words, don't go absolutely crazy in what you eat or use. Moderate the amount BASED on the given circumstances (and now, the species, endangered or not). That's the problem, right now, IMO, with slaughterhouses and why it may seem hypocritical to some. We need to do exactly that- Moderate ourselves. This goes for anyone who's anti-slaughter as well (PETA, dude. Enough said). Moderate your actions, going insane on the guy who ate a cow doesn't make you any better!
(and that is the difference between humans and natural killings - we generally want more and more and more - animals eat what they need to. Not saying we need to start living like animals, but that's why when humans get involved, the general order gets upset)
I don't think most activists actually want people to stop eating meat altogether, including PETA. Now, IMO, extremists on any side are stupid, (especially) including the ones who think eating meat should warrant the death penalty, or sh*t like that.
That said (and I'm not trying to go to any extreme here, just stating a fact), humans don't actually need meat, whatsoever. The human body isn't designed to eat it; we have small canines, and teeth generally not structured for it, and a digestive system the size of a two story building.
The problems with slaughterhouses do go pretty far beyond that, but yeah, you're absolutely right there.
The reason why I say moderation is the problem, is, well, the idea of MASS CONSUMPTION, basically. Or, in not as blunt terms, growth hormones and causing animals to get so fat their legs break. That's also a problem meat wise. If an animal is put under severe stress for a significant amount of time before it is slaughtered, the meat is not good quality at all and tough. The best way to honor an animal when it is killed for food is not wasting it and respecting it while it is still alive.
And many people do not know this - one type of animal slaughter has, in fact, been banned here in the US. Let me know if you see horse meat in your supermarket, Americans. It's not there. There is a ban on horsemeat in the US since around 2002. So, not all animals are in fact slaughtered for human consumption.
And it's not only that, but WE consume those hormones, chemicals, and medications every time we eat one of those. Don't exactly know what you're trying to get at with the second part.
All most people seem to be asking is not for an animal to be put under unnecessary stress with the bullfighting, much like slaughterhouses, unless you're a vegetarian, obviously. Bullfighting and several other practices around the world are known for this kind of mass killing going on- Japanese hunting dolphins, Spain's bullfighting, and probably others. Unnecessary killing is not generally accepted. (Also, note, how everyone says about wasting food- but if you really want to view it this way, the Spanish bullfighting is potentially wasting food)
EDIT: LOL, oh god, I'm sorry if this is considered off topic. Forgive me. D:
HorseGal wrote:I have heard that after the bull is killed, it does get used for consumption. There was also news about this a few months past, about one part of Spain that had banned bullfighting. It has been banned in part of northeastern Spain.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/ ... 0277.shtml
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