Random Topic V3

[Galaxia]

Has anyone played the Old World Blues dlc for FNV that came out recently?

I need someone's opinion on if it's worth my money before I buy it

[Hopeflower]

Ik: the fingers have been going numb for two days now, though for the last few years my right hand has always been significantly colder than my left. I assumed I was just a freak, but now I assume this was because of poor blood flow.

[The Kingpin]

KP: So? Again, ignoring what I said about plasma being different, it is FAR from being similar to thermal or solar energy. And if I recall correctly, one wouldn't have to deal with plasma in space unless they dive into the lower regions of the sun. What he should be more worried about is the intense radiation he would be exposing himself to, not plasma.

I'm saying the properties of plasma, both in the real world and in the Godzilla universe, are too different to be classified as thermal energy. Its like saying a monster that lives in water and shoots water from its mouth won't be gutted by an icicle the size of its arm.

again, you're missing the point. Plasma =/= thermal energy. that, I agree with. we both know that. but that does NOT mean that plasma does not have heat. on the contrary, it is the hottest state of matter, with even the so called 'cold plasma' often reaching well into the several thousand degree Kelvin range, with 'hot plasma' reaching far beyond that. thermal energy = heat. plasma contains heat. therefore, it is a source of thermal energy. it is NOT thermal energy in and of itself, but it IS a source for it, because to reach the material state of plasma, you have to reach incredibly high temperatures. if plasma is found anywhere, especially as a weapon in GEW of all places, it will undoubtedly be at a very high temperature.

Horus would not be severely influenced by high temperatures. in addition to initially being a creature that fed off thermal and solar energy overall, after the transformation, artificial elements even more durable than his own significantly capable hide were added. Note that the highest temperature ever recorded, was generated artificially. it was a man-made plasma experiment that reached 3.6 billion degrees F, or 2 billion degrees Kelvin. hotter than the interior of the sun (the core of the Sun is, to our best estimates, 15.6 million degrees Kelvin.) by a LONG shot. and this is the real world, minus the Godzilla universe's Space Titanium. If the sun's heat was enough to damage Horus, who is a solar and thermal energy-based creature that is basically covered in Space Titanium, then chances are that experiment would've melted a massive portion of the earth and sparked a 2012 Global Destruction event . the alternative explanation is that Space Titanium is pathetic compared to what we have available in the real world.

I'll leave that fact for you to consider.


http://www.livescience.com/614-record-s ... s-lab.html

http://www.thelantern.com/2.1362/machin ... es-1.82397

[TyrannoTitan]

Last I checked, you didn't say he dove into the sun, just flew by it, which we've already talked about: He is more at risk from the surface heat and intense radiation then the plasma. And just because plasma generates heat does not mean he can absorb it. A flame retardant suit will protect someone from flames, but if someone sprays napalm onto the suit, it will burn right through. Its designed to resist a certain type of heat, not ALL types of heat. Same with Horus.

[The Kingpin]

I never said Horus did jump into the sun. I was stating that many kinds of artificial materials can withstand temperatures far surpassing that of the sun [otherwise that lab would've been utterly destroyed as a result of such immense heat]. also note that Horus has skin [solar panels included] interweaved with the most powerful artificial material available in regards to heat and radiation. he is both naturally and artificially designed to not only ignore the heat, but absorb it to charge his reservoirs.

I've already stated to you on several occasions that the plasma is not completely ignored. it's thermal energy is absorbed, but the plasma itself is still there. the fact that plasma's primary destructive force is the heat just puts it at a disadvantage, since Horus absorbs most of it.

This is not some kind of plant leaf or civilian solar panel we're talking about here. the stuff installed on Horus is designed for this purpose.

[Giratina93]

um, listening to this rather heated argument over Horus's ability to absorb heat energy brings up a question into my mind... What would happen if Horus absorbed too much energy for him to handle? all creatures have a limit as to how much energy that can absorb, and if Horus were to take in too much heat energy... well... I doubt it would be pretty. plus, absorbing alot of heat energy is pretty much inevidable if he's flying around the sun...

Oh and KP, your turn to post in ISS...

[TyrannoTitan]

Again, plasma is too different. Its ridiculous that he can absorb something that is, essentially in the Godzilla universe, a ******* laser. What about lasers too, then? They burn things, which means they use heat. Or how about electricity, sure it gives a jolt, but it also sears things it comes in contact with. Oh and of course explosives, because they generate heat too.

Lets just make him a giant ******* vacuum cleaner for every weapon used against him and call it a day while we're at it.

[The Kingpin]

Gira: He'd have to vent it. if he overcharges he has to vent it somehow. usually that's not a problem because he can expend large amounts of energy in his natural weapons, such as his beam weapons and his 'energy blade' horn, as well as the more artificial weapons, like the energy receptors across his body along claws, teeth, axe tail...etc. they are fuelled by the thermal energy reservoirs, and if the reservoirs are full he can vent a large portion of it by using various combinations of his weapons, or if he's overloaded and overheating, activate them all at once to expel said energy quickly.

also remember that these panels are controllable. if he's overloading, he can shut them off so he doesn't absorb anything. after that he simply relies on the Space Titanium in his body to ignore the effects of the heat and radiation while he vents the excess.


TT: in simple terms? thermal energy doesn't do much. lasers wouldn't do much. electricity? well, the heat itself wouldn't harm him, but the electricity would probably zap his focus considering it'd be leaping all over his electrical systems [he can control the damage to a degree, but not nullify it. he'd feel it]. explosives? well, the heat wouldn't do much to him, but the sheer kinetic force of the shockwaves of said explosives would be felt. shockwaves count as blunt trauma

so where does that leave you? acid would hinder his ability to absorb due to it damaging the space titanium, and thus, most things that are made of said material. ice would sap his reservoirs and slow him down. you could even freeze over his jets, which would take his flight speed down considerably as well. you seem to overestimate Horus. there are plenty of weaknesses there. he's just almost impervious to thermal energy. what comes with said thermal energy isn't automatically negated, as I stated with the electricity example above.

[Hopeflower]

Called my grandma and asked her if she could set up an appointment with a good surgeon. I'll let you guys know when I get an absolute day. My arm is acting up more and more, especially in summer school. I don't want to have to deal with this during exams - or all next school year.

I just hope it's before or after the 14th of august. Going to the Great Escape with my family. :3

[Godzilla Forever]

I was reading that some aquatic animals use soundwaves to stun and outright KILL their prey, due to the sheer concussive force of the blast. Wonder if that works above the water....

[The Kingpin]

pistol shrimp, G4E. nuff said.


I wish you luck with the operation HF. here's hoping it all goes well and your arm's back to normal by the end.....that, or replaced with a badass mechanical replacement . Cyborg Goth.

[TyrannoTitan]

KP: The point of GEW is to have two strengths (usually elements they can resist or be immune to) and two weaknesses. Thermal energy would mean fire, not plasma, not electricity, not a little of anything else, just ******* fire. You are twisting it and making it complicated, which means its a bigger pain in the *** for everyone else.

We'll see what Doc says.

[Galaxia]

Pistol shrimp,I remember seeing one of those on some documentary on evolution and using the pistol shrimp as one of the examples of something evolving specialized means of killing or catching prey or something like that,each episode dealt with something different,evolution of jaw,eyes,skin and stuff like that

[Hopeflower]

KP: XD

cyborg goth. Has a nice ring to it. :3

XP

seriously though, thanks. I'm nervous but in the right hands everything should go well. :3

[Galaxia]

Going to the Great Escape with my family. :3

Thats the music festival right HP?

You don't strike me as the kind of person who goes to see the 1963 war film with their family XP

[The Kingpin]

if that's the case, you'll need to completely revise your strength and weakness system. because in that sense, it makes utterly no sense. that's like saying that oil is not wet because it doesn't contain water.

thermal energy = heat. you can't just say 'ONLY FIRE'. because then you're practically saying that everything else in the universe has no temperature whatsoever. so what, your body temperature is absolute zero? the sun has no temperature? [if that's the case, how come we feel warm when we walk out in the sunlight? the sun isn't fire. it's a massive ball of nuclear fusion which, through said reactions causes plasma. so why do we feel heat?] why are there burn marks on metal when welding with an arc welder? arc welders use plasma. so what're the scorch marks there for? why is the metal on the point of contact seriously hot as a result? there's no fire there. just plasma. so why is it hot?

[Giratina93]

I wish you luck, HF...

And now, for some trivia time! Hit it, Bowser!

Bowser: Did you know that The Lion King is actually a blalant rip-off of one of the oldest anime ever made, called Kimba the White lion? And now here's TT with the weather!

[Hopeflower]

Galaxia: the theme park actually. :3 we go every year. Theres one in NY and lucky for us, not too far. about an hour and a half's drive from our hometown.

Gita: thanks. :3 and yes, the lion king heavily references Kimba. I believe the makers of TLK credited the anime, though I'm not sure.

[Galaxia]

Gira:Blatant,yes but it made money regardless,I wonder if everyone knew that when it was released it would have been as successful?

HP:You know now that you mention it a theme park with that name does seem to ring a bell,maybe we have one over here

[Giratina93]

Wait a minute... something's not right here... since when did my name become Gita?

OH MAH GOSH! THE APOCALYPSE IS NIGH! I WISH I WERE A BURD!!!

@ Galaxia: I don't think so... But hey, almost anything can make money... Alas, there's nothing new under the sun...