Random Topic V3

[Giratina93]

... I just realized something.

The Rook that I'm fighting, and the Rook that Crusher fought in the old ISS are the same Giga... i wonder what happened to turn Rook into the Hulk-speaking mindless Giga that Crusher fought?

[Godzilla Forever]

Maybehe was loony to begin with but he recieved heavy brain damage later on.

[The Kingpin]

plasma cutters do a good job in that regard. sure, they're not beams, but the reason they function at all is the heat. that's what makes them cut. you can't really argue against the fact that plasma is primarily driven by thermal energy. not without overhauling the entire concept of plasma itself.

just saying 'it's fiction' doesn't work. if that were the case, I could have Horus absorb super cold temperatures as well on grounds it's temperature-related and go 'it's fiction. temperature = energy option. can be drained', even though the fact of the matter is the exact opposite.

a thermonuclear explosion's shockwave is generated, IIRC, by an instant, intense increase in temperature. but the driving force that causes it is the radiation [I am very weak regarding my knowledge on this subject, and am not equipped to look into it properly. I'm just addressing it at a glance for the sake of our discussion]. therefore, it makes sense to call it nuclear energy, despite the blast being heat-related.

additionally, Horus siphons heat from his surroundings using any source he can find. plasma serves as a source. as do fires, the sun, and so on. the reason he spends a large amount of time in the upper atmosphere is to gain the most of the sun's energy, rather than getting a small portion of it lower in the atmosphere.


as for Rook, they are the same character, though personalities differ drastically this time around. in ISS1 he was just a generic enemy to haunt Crusher and those close to him. this time around he's an actual, legitimate character. i've adjusted his behaviour to make him a viable character option.

[TyrannoTitan]

By "its fiction" I meant that the properties of various **** surrounding the Godzilla universe don't equal real world physics. We go by what it presented in the movies, video games, and so forth. In this case, plasma and heat (take Mechagodzilla 2's chest weapon, which was plasma, and Rodan's heat beam) are two very different things.

And even ignoring that fact, how in god's name does a SOLAR PANEL absorb something like that? Even if you bring it to scale: Its like saying a modern solar panel would be unharmed when someone shoots it with a flamethrower (not napalm, just fire). It would melt, because it can't absorb the heat of anything that powerful. Same with this. Its a super solar panel, and I could understand if it absorbed someone spewing fire at it given its used on a giant monster cyborg, but something as refined and super-heated as plasma? It doesn't function at all like fire, so it wouldn't work any way you look at it.

[C S]

I don't think he means the panel does the absorbing. Horus' body naturally takes in heat and such. Hell, even his own beam is plasma based. So if something shot plasma at him, he would be naturally unharmed and get a power boost. Like Rodan in G:STE, where Godzilla and other heat based monsters cant do **** to him. Their beams are absorbed and turned into health

[TyrannoTitan]

I don't think he means the panel does the absorbing. Horus' body naturally takes in heat and such. Hell, even his own beam is plasma based. So if something shot plasma at him, he would be naturally unharmed and get a power boost. Like Rodan in G:STE, where Godzilla and other heat based monsters cant do **** to him. Their beams are absorbed and turned into health

"Solar Panels: Positioned at various points across his body, these High Efficiency panels absorb solar and thermal energy to compensate for the natural ability that was lost during the modification process, retaining Horus' ability to exploit the sun. in addition to absorbing energy, they can be used to expel it."

No.

[Godzilla Forever]

So basically, Horus is immune to anything that requries heat to harm as-is?

[Giratina93]

More or less, G4E...

Oh, and I gave you your cue in ISS, but you ignored it...

[Godzilla Forever]

Really?! When?! Lemme check....

EDIT: Found it, I'm editting now.

[The Kingpin]

keep in mind Horus himself, as a monster, minus the cyborg enhancements, feeds off thermal energy. that's how something like him survives in space. absorbing energy wherever he can get it. plasma and solar energy are what fill space. so even disregarding the panels themselves, he is capable of absorbing the energy naturally. by lost, in the profile, I refer to the fact that compared to before, he absorbs very little energy from thermal sources naturally. he is not as efficient at it as he was prior to his modification [less natural surface area of his skin means less space for him to absorb through. if I were to compare the energy to water, the difference between pre-modification and post-modification is like the difference between pouring water through plain air and pouring water through a very fine sieve. at best, he's 15-25% efficient at naturally absorbing it, for which he makes up with the panels].

Also note that these panels are made for uses far outside natural elements. as you said yourself, this is a combat ready giant monster we're talking about. one that is capable of travel through space and getting into relatively close proximity to the sun, without an atmosphere to protect him. it would simply by stupid for the panels to be vulnerable to something they're designed to actively absorb. they were designed to fully replace his natural absorption ability. using materials such as alloys containing space titanium solves the temperature vulnerability of conventional panels [and as you can see in the profile, use of space titanium in non-conventional forms is common throughout the character's arsenal both where physical appearance is concerned and where functionality is concerned.

[Hopeflower]

KP: lawl. True enough. XP my splint helps with the pain but it doesn't help enough. Plus, my index middle and ring fingers have begun to go numb randomly. I may just decide to go for the surgery. Get a more permanent solution.

[Iceking]

How long have those fingers been numbing and for how long have they remained numb?

[TyrannoTitan]

KP: So? Again, ignoring what I said about plasma being different, it is FAR from being similar to thermal or solar energy. And if I recall correctly, one wouldn't have to deal with plasma in space unless they dive into the lower regions of the sun. What he should be more worried about is the intense radiation he would be exposing himself to, not plasma.

I'm saying the properties of plasma, both in the real world and in the Godzilla universe, are too different to be classified as thermal energy. Its like saying a monster that lives in water and shoots water from its mouth won't be gutted by an icicle the size of its arm.

[Godzilla Forever]

Isn't dark matter more prevelant in space than anything?

[C S]

Plasma is the most abundant visible state of matter, as every star in every galaxy is made of it. It even exists in between stars and some planets.

[TyrannoTitan]

Point is, when Horus is flying past the sun, he is more at risk from being damaged by the extreme heat and intense radiation then he is from random plasma.

[C S]

Pfft. Radiation being a threat? Not in my Godzilla. Instead of causing cancer and other forms of cellular damage, it makes things grow huge and use beams of energy like that bunny =D

[Iceking]

This might interest TT a bit: A blizzard employee has stated that Chris Metzen isn't the person doing the voice of Deathwing.

[TyrannoTitan]

This might interest TT a bit: A blizzard employee has stated that Chris Metzen isn't the person doing the voice of Deathwing.

LE-FUCKING-GASP.

Its significant because Christ Metzen voices like 80% of characters in WoW/Warcraft.

[Iceking]

Nozdormu has also shown up in Cataclysm, though in a humanoid form and at the world tree with the other 3 good dragon aspects.